yo but seriously, real talk

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09/22/2016 at 12:41 • Filed to: None

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can you believe trump is the republican nominee


DISCUSSION (100)


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:44

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of course I can! them repubs is crazee yo! #Dems4Lyfe


Kinja'd!!! macanamera > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 12:45

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like, I’m a registered republican but holy shit

not like this

please


Kinja'd!!! Out, but with a W - has found the answer > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:46

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i dont want 2, but yeah i can. shilly4lyfe, yo


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:46

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I’m a registered.... foreigner and cannot vote in your country :D


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:46

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The underground Russian spy network finally won!


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:46

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This election is like a caricature of a bad election. And somehow it is reality! I just really hope the US isnt laughed at MORE around the world than we already are after this. If only Bernie had made it to the election, then I would have actually had someone I could support.


Kinja'd!!! Garrett Davis > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:46

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Kinja'd!!! Wacko > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:47

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first 20 seconds sums it up.


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:47

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I’m a registered Dem, but... McCain... Romney... Please. Anyone other than The Annoying Orange.


Kinja'd!!! macanamera > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 12:48

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are you from the moon


Kinja'd!!! Wacko > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 12:48

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being a registered sex offender doesn’t count...


Kinja'd!!! macanamera > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 12:48

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it’s crazy right? like an actual satire- but real life


Kinja'd!!! macanamera > Leadbull
09/22/2016 at 12:48

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putin is doing backflips on his space yacht right now


Kinja'd!!! macanamera > TheHondaBro
09/22/2016 at 12:49

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I’ve never seen a more punchable face


Kinja'd!!! LongbowMkII > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:49

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No.


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 12:51

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You’re right, it’s like an SNL skit come to life. I blame Lorne Michaels.


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:51

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I thought maybe Jeb or Rubio, but not Trump. I do find it funny that everyone who gave him shit lined up behind him after the nomination.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Wacko
09/22/2016 at 12:52

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offender, more like registered sex... gooder-at-it-ist


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:53

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yes, I was a sailor there


Kinja'd!!! Wacko > TheHondaBro
09/22/2016 at 12:53

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more like a episode of Southpark gone real


Kinja'd!!! Out, but with a W - has found the answer > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 12:54

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Trust me, when it first appeared he had a shot at winning the nomination, it was hilarious, albeit not totally unexpected, but by now we’re more afraid of the what-if.


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 12:54

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Calling Nibby


Kinja'd!!! Rico > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:54

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Garrison/Jenner 2016 - Fuck them all to DEATH


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:54

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That moment when Dubya doesn’t seem all that bad....


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:55

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Putin is riding his horse inside a submarine in the Caspian Sea right now


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:55

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I’ve posted this before, but Monty Brewster was a visionary

I honestly don’t know how I’m going to vote this year. I dislike either major party candidate. I’ll probably ending up with either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson


Kinja'd!!! Wacko > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 12:55

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good for you, i got a licence to thrill.


Kinja'd!!! RallyWrench > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:56

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You can’t make this shit up.


Kinja'd!!! RallyWrench > TheHondaBro
09/22/2016 at 12:57

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I actually like McCain,the GOP fucked him with Palin.


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 12:57

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No, I can’t.

But this entire political season has gone off the rails, and forced some introspection that I wasn’t really looking for.

Team nobody. How did it sink this far?


Kinja'd!!! Rico > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 12:58

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So in May I took a trip to the Middle East and Europe - can confirm we are the laughing stock of the world. I was asked by almost every new person I met:

“So..are you voting for Trump? Hahahahaha” or some variation of that followed by jokes about how comical it all is from the outside.


Kinja'd!!! Rico > Party-vi
09/22/2016 at 12:59

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Not everyone - Jeb and Kasich just flat out refuse. Kasich actually didn’t even show up and it was hosted in his home state.


Kinja'd!!! Wacko > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:03

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no he’s just dancing


Kinja'd!!! crowmolly > Tekamul
09/22/2016 at 13:03

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How did it sink this far?

Good leaders don’t want to go through all of the horseshit.


Kinja'd!!! 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:03

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Hard to believe, I don’t think he is qualified. I mean the interviews on the Daily Show with some of his supporters outside a rally are insane. I don’t think a lot of those people are even informed or have a grip on reality or have ever travelled outside the USA. I’m not saying Hillary is the best thing to come along, but at least leaders around the world (besides Putin) are willing to work with her. Trump is a slash and burn businessman, he has gotten ahead but he has ruined a lot of people along the way. This is like Spinal Tap or Best in Show, the election version. He still says Mexico will pay for a wall, the Mexicans are like, WTF is he talking about, also Mexico hates their president. I think there is so much wrong with Trump and his supporters that there isn’t enough time to talk about it in our short attention span world, so he gets away with it. Most of them believe in fairy tales to begin with so it isn’t as hard to get those idiots to go along with it, plus they don’t like Hillary so they will burn the country down rather than vote for her.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:03

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Don King wearing a bedazzled denim jacket with a picture of himself on it while giving a pro Trump speech was the icing on the cake. Truly bizarre.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Stapleface
09/22/2016 at 13:05

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A: I love this movie

B: I think of this ALL the time during this election


Kinja'd!!! Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:05

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This is the ship you’re gonna sink on


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:05

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Republican here. Not happy.


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 13:06

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You’re so smooth, it’s no surprise.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Party-vi
09/22/2016 at 13:07

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I was really hoping that Jeb would get the nom. Been a registered Republican forever but haven’t been able to vote for one yet. I’d have voted for McCain in a heartbeat if he wasn’t a 70 something with a history of cancer and heart disease with Sarah fucking Palin as his second and I’d have voted for 2008 or 2016 Mitt too, but in 2012 he went full value-voter.


Kinja'd!!! MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > TheHondaBro
09/22/2016 at 13:07

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That seems fair.


Kinja'd!!! MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:07

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Thankfully I have Gary Johnson to vote for.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Rico
09/22/2016 at 13:09

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Should have drone-stuck their asses.


Kinja'd!!! Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > TheHondaBro
09/22/2016 at 13:09

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We are now USNL, and I blame the asylum gallery.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > DipodomysDeserti
09/22/2016 at 13:09

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That didn’t sway you to vote for The Donald?


Kinja'd!!! CalzoneGolem > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:10

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I never would’ve believed it


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > RallyWrench
09/22/2016 at 13:10

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I’d have voted for him in a heartbeat without Palin on the ticket. I called Obama as a Dubya extension off the bat.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
09/22/2016 at 13:11

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I blame letting the peasants get a say in national politics. #Autocracy2016


Kinja'd!!! Clemsie McKenzie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 13:12

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Oh don’t worry, we laugh at you guys a lot. Already when you reelected Bush, but this is on an entire new level!

It would be more fun if you guys weren’t supposed to be leader of the free world or something, though.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Rico
09/22/2016 at 13:14

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Alternatively depending on the country you could have responded with “Are you going to vote for... oh wait, you can’t vote!”


Kinja'd!!! Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:15

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I grew up in Minnesota and was maybe 14-16 when Ventura got elected. He did the same thing, trashed politicians and the media, said little of substance and got elected. Plus side - he didn’t really do much as he had no party support, did little to establish new policies, and he lasted one term. I suspect even if trump gets elected he won’t get anything accomplished except that he’ll have a bit of sway over the Supreme Court.


Kinja'd!!! BorkBorkBjork > Party-vi
09/22/2016 at 13:15

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That always happens, because campaigns are expensive and the bills don’t stop coming just because you’re out of the running. By shilling for the leader (who is still in fundraising mode) you can pay off those debts. Hell, it took Hillary 4 years too pay off the millions she owed from running in 2008.

That and the whole party unity blah-blah-blah.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
09/22/2016 at 13:16

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The weirdest part is that King supported Obama in 2008.


Kinja'd!!! Sam > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
09/22/2016 at 13:16

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As someone who has been to a Trump rally, the supporters you see on TV acting like nut jobs are very uncommon. There’s a reason they’re on TV. A 40 year old dentist with a Make America Great Again hat isn’t nearly as interesting to watch as someone who is completely insane.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > DipodomysDeserti
09/22/2016 at 13:17

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King supports whoever’s putting on the best show. He’s a promoter.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
09/22/2016 at 13:19

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Yeah, but Palin put on a hell of a show in 2008.


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 13:23

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Such a great movie, and been a while since I’ve watched it. Might have to remedy that tonight.


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
09/22/2016 at 13:24

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Am I the only person on the internet who doesn’t hate Bush? Seriously.


Kinja'd!!! spanfucker retire bitch > Clemsie McKenzie
09/22/2016 at 13:27

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Yeah, I imagine it’s a lot less scary when an autocratic demagogue with fascist ideas with a campaign built on bigotry and unconstitutional ideas combined with a healthy desire to commit war crimes is running to become President of some small, tin-pot nothing nation.

As opposed to the most militarily and economically powerful nation in the world.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Stapleface
09/22/2016 at 13:28

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heard talk of a remake, I’d be fine with that


Kinja'd!!! spanfucker retire bitch > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 13:29

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Smooth.


Kinja'd!!! OPPOsaurus WRX > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:30

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its reality reality TV


Kinja'd!!! Pyrochazm > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:33

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This entire election is like an Onion article come to life.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:35

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No


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 13:37

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Let’s be honest, although he is horrible. It’s not like the rest of the world is doing much better.


Kinja'd!!! RallyWrench > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
09/22/2016 at 13:37

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I was absolutely willing to consider McCain until she came in. I wouldn’t call Obama a GWB extension. I’m not blindly enamored with his presidency but I think he’s tried to move the country in a positive direction, and has been largely stuck operating in Dubya’s framework due to Congress’ obstinacy and world events.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Clemsie McKenzie
09/22/2016 at 13:38

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I certainly hope you’re not from a place that voted for a brexit.


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:40

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Yes. He is smart! He knows what the angry and hate filled right want to hear. He knows how to pander to them all in such a magnificent way..... just to throw it all away towards the end so his best buddies The Clintons can get in the office. If anything, i’m glad he is the nominee. It shows me how actually dumb some people are, avoid them, and elude total chaos at least for 4 more years.

Lol Donald Trump is the absolute opposite of GOP values. They are good and honest values for the most part. I support many. But, people will actually vote for this guy because their absolute hate-filled hearts will rather do that than vote for an actual deserving candidate. Not the best candidate at all for sure, but better than the other whackos.


Kinja'd!!! Rico > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
09/22/2016 at 13:42

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Lol nah both countries have elections and both men and women can vote. People in both places offered me a place to live if Trump won haha


Kinja'd!!! Clemsie McKenzie > wiffleballtony
09/22/2016 at 13:45

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France, actually!


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:46

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Gary Johnson is a valid option :)


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > Rico
09/22/2016 at 13:47

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CTHULHU


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Clemsie McKenzie
09/22/2016 at 13:48

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Bush was at least a competent leader type of person. I may not have supported many of his policies but he definitely did alright with the leardership part of it.


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 13:50

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My sports team is best sports team! Go blue, beat red!


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
09/22/2016 at 13:54

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....In the world.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 13:54

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I irrationally hate red because I live in blue’s town, even though I grew up in red’s town!


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
09/22/2016 at 13:55

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After reading that article about 9/11 and how it affected him, it really changed how I felt about Bush. I just respected him far more as a leader because of it.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Rico
09/22/2016 at 13:56

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you all shouldn’t be laughing at anyone. There are more Trumps out there than just Donald Trump. Take Norbert Hofer:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/eur…

His proposals are right from the Trump playbook. Muslims are evil, get us out of EU/NAFTA, wanting to do things he won’t have the power to do, etc.

creeping nationalism/nativism is a fast growing problem throughout the Western world. nevermind the looming “Brexit” disaster.


Kinja'd!!! Mercedes Streeter > Sam
09/22/2016 at 13:56

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Agreed. My dad is a Trump supporter and he’s a pretty chill guy. He loves the Donald to death (my dad is unfortunately very racist, xenophobic, hateful, you name it) but he’s peaceful about it. He sees Trump as the next Reagan and that Hillary is pretty much the next worst thing to Obama.

Which, as much as I disagree with pretty much everything my dad stands for, I have to give him lots of respect for showing his political support the same way I would.


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 13:56

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I’d be interested in it. But I’m not sure they could possibly top Richard Pryor and John Candy.


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
09/22/2016 at 13:57

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OK then.

Or maybe I’m the only one who doesn’t keep it to myself.


Kinja'd!!! Rico > jimz
09/22/2016 at 13:58

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Oh definitely Europe and the Middle East are no strangers to crazy political figures, that’s for damn sure.


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 13:58

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I just support blue because they have a cool mascot.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > macanamera
09/22/2016 at 13:59

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This guy nearly won in Austria:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/eur…

he’s basically Donald Trump w/o the bad hair or orange skin. We aren’t alone in this trend towards nativism/nationalism. This is also going on in Europe. Brexit was another example. If anyone over there is truly “laughing” at us, I’d say they should take the plank out of their own eye before pointing out the speck in ours.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Party-vi
09/22/2016 at 14:00

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some people are buying into his nationalist/nativist message, others just despise Hillary enough to go with him.


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 14:02

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That article made me think of a Winston Churchill quote...

“Those who can win a war well can rarely make a good peace and those who could make a good peace would never have won the war.”

Bush was a military man from the start. We’ll gloss over the “winning the war” part for now, because it’s an ongoing thing, but it definitely is an insight to his train of thought.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
09/22/2016 at 14:02

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he wouldn’t be looked at so poorly had the Iraq invasion never happened. That created a mess which is going to be with us for a damn long time. Destabilizing the region created ISIL which is now destroying Syria and sending refugees fleeing.


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > PatBateman
09/22/2016 at 14:03

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Most aren’t.

Real Republicans, while i’m no fan of (neither of the Democratic ideology) seem to have many honest and wholesome views. None of which that clown seems to portray. That’s a damn shame for sure. All to a point where if I were Republican, I wouldn’t vote for that section of the ballot.

Still though, most Republicans will in spite of from what I can assume is actual Satan (Hillary) from what they say about her.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Rico
09/22/2016 at 14:05

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Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
09/22/2016 at 14:05

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I picked my football team based on awesome colours. really pissed off the broncos supporting wife that I thought raiders silver and black looked good!

was a lot more fun when they were beating the broncos occasionally....


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Stapleface
09/22/2016 at 14:05

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certainly not going to be better. but its a good concept and worthy of remaking


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > jimz
09/22/2016 at 14:11

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Iraq, like Vietnam, was a mistake. Going there in the first place is widely considered a mistake. I consider the greater error being the attempt to win a war while treading on eggshells.

If it’s worth going to war you owe it to everyone to finish it off.


Kinja'd!!! Matt Nichelson > MonkeePuzzle
09/22/2016 at 14:18

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I see what you did there


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > jimz
09/22/2016 at 14:20

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And btw I think your reworded reply makes my answer to it even more relevant. You can’t claim to have won while the echos are still bouncing around.

Even though it was a much larger conflict, I think I can draw a connection to WW2 here... Germany was utterly crushed. The extremists were either exterminated or fled. THEN the rebuilding starts.

Also, the Middle East is essentially without borders. It’s a religious region as much as a geographical one. So in keeping with “finishing the job you started”, it should have been recognized that it would spread from one country to another and that they would need to invade or co-operate with all the other countries besides Iraq once they’d started.


Kinja'd!!! Sam > Stapleface
09/22/2016 at 14:24

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I’ll probably vote for Stein, because I know that there is literally a 0% chance she even breaks into the teens of the overall vote. Then I can actually vote for governor and senators and stuff like that.


Kinja'd!!! Sam > dogisbadob
09/22/2016 at 14:27

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He’s polling at <3%, so not exactly.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > OPPOsaurus WRX
09/22/2016 at 14:30

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Reality TV, with nukes!

We are fucked.


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > Sam
09/22/2016 at 14:32

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actually, he’s near 10%


Kinja'd!!! 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Sam
09/22/2016 at 14:37

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I read stuff like this, seems like people block out the other stuff:

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I finally found a Trump supporter – this morning when I went to buy coffee. (I noticed a Trump bumper sticker on his car.)

“Hi,” I said. “Noticed your Trump bumper sticker.”

“Yup,” he said, a bit defensively.

“I hope you don’t mind my asking, but I’m curious. Why are you supporting him?”

“I know he’s a little bit much,” said the Trump supporter. “But he’s a successful businessman. And we need a successful businessman as president.”

“How do you know he’s a successful businessman?” I asked.

“Because he’s made a fortune.”

“Has he really?” I asked.

“Of course. Forbes magazine says he’s worth four and a half billion.”

“That doesn’t mean he’s been a success,” I said.

“In my book it does,” said the Trump supporter.

“You know, in 1976, when Trump was just starting his career, he said he was worth about $200 million,” I said. “Most of that was from his father.”

“That just proves my point,” said the Trump supporter. “He turned that $200 million into four and a half billion. Brilliant man.“

“But if he had just put that $200 million into an index fund and reinvested the dividends, he’d be worth twelve billion today,” I said.

The Trump supporter went silent.

“And he got about $850 million in tax subsidies, just in New York alone,” I said.

More silence.

“He’s not a businessman,” I said. “He’s a con man. “Hope you enjoy your coffee.”